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		<title>By: Policy Web Development</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/10/ubuntu-forums-ubuntu-development-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-13240</link>
		<dc:creator>Policy Web Development</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Feb 2008 22:20:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Diego&#8217;s Blog &#187; Wohin der kühne Reiher fliegt, Ubuntu 8.04 &#8220;Hardy Heron&#8221;</title>
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		<dc:creator>Diego&#8217;s Blog &#187; Wohin der kühne Reiher fliegt, Ubuntu 8.04 &#8220;Hardy Heron&#8221;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Nov 2007 19:57:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Pakete nicht gefährlich sind oder zu Konflikten führen und zusätzlich kann man so etwas für die Positionen als MOTU  werben. Für Ubuntu 7.10 war es schon angedacht, dass der Windows-Installer Wubi integriert wird, [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Pakete nicht gefährlich sind oder zu Konflikten führen und zusätzlich kann man so etwas für die Positionen als MOTU  werben. Für Ubuntu 7.10 war es schon angedacht, dass der Windows-Installer Wubi integriert wird, [...]</p>
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		<title>By: rapidoda &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ubuntu Forums: Ubuntu Development &#38; Programming</title>
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		<dc:creator>rapidoda &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Ubuntu Forums: Ubuntu Development &#38; Programming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 07 Nov 2007 08:50:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] You can read the full story here [...]</description>
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		<title>By: baps</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/10/ubuntu-forums-ubuntu-development-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-6631</link>
		<dc:creator>baps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 13:21:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt; packaging from scratch is moderately difficult. Upgrading a packaging already in the repos to a newer version is very very easy (basically just copy and paste)

So it&#039;s like autotools, nobody can actually produce a working non-trivial setup from scratch anymore? :D But okay, I&#039;ll stop whining now, I guess it&#039;s time to give debs a second try.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt; packaging from scratch is moderately difficult. Upgrading a packaging already in the repos to a newer version is very very easy (basically just copy and paste)</p>
<p>So it&#8217;s like autotools, nobody can actually produce a working non-trivial setup from scratch anymore? <img src='http://www.mikesplanet.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  But okay, I&#8217;ll stop whining now, I guess it&#8217;s time to give debs a second try.</p>
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		<title>By: Kyle Elbert</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kyle Elbert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 01:41:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>packaging from scratch is moderately difficult. Upgrading a packaging already in the repos to a newer version is very very easy (basically just copy and paste) for some links see my blog (note I am also very new to packaging, but i did upgrade one package already (Tightvnc from 1.2.9 to 1.3.9)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>packaging from scratch is moderately difficult. Upgrading a packaging already in the repos to a newer version is very very easy (basically just copy and paste) for some links see my blog (note I am also very new to packaging, but i did upgrade one package already (Tightvnc from 1.2.9 to 1.3.9)</p>
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		<title>By: baps</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/10/ubuntu-forums-ubuntu-development-programming/comment-page-1/#comment-6597</link>
		<dc:creator>baps</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Nov 2007 00:17:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh my, dh-make (or debhelper or whatever) is still there? Maybe it&#039;s just me, but I find creating .deb packages very confusing. I wanted to create .deb for our software (some time ago, maybe even before warty), so I went to debian&#039;s site for maintainers and there was this huge package policy document. I tried the helper scripts, which created a template file, which was full of strange scripts. I had so many problems doing it what I want, the deb package tool kept reporting errors and errors with really bad explanations (like &quot;File XYZ has bad format&quot;, but there was no documentation about XYZ!). I just gave up, I was short on time, so I took the RPMs that I already had (very simple to create!) and converted them to debs with alien.

I hope it is saner nowadays...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh my, dh-make (or debhelper or whatever) is still there? Maybe it&#8217;s just me, but I find creating .deb packages very confusing. I wanted to create .deb for our software (some time ago, maybe even before warty), so I went to debian&#8217;s site for maintainers and there was this huge package policy document. I tried the helper scripts, which created a template file, which was full of strange scripts. I had so many problems doing it what I want, the deb package tool kept reporting errors and errors with really bad explanations (like &#8220;File XYZ has bad format&#8221;, but there was no documentation about XYZ!). I just gave up, I was short on time, so I took the RPMs that I already had (very simple to create!) and converted them to debs with alien.</p>
<p>I hope it is saner nowadays&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: elitesq &#187; Ubuntu Forums: Ubuntu Development &#38; Programming</title>
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		<dc:creator>elitesq &#187; Ubuntu Forums: Ubuntu Development &#38; Programming</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 22:59:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: jimcooncat</title>
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		<dc:creator>jimcooncat</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:16:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, I didn&#039;t know about this! Maybe now I can get some help with the little packages I want to make -- just my own defaults to existing packages.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, I didn&#8217;t know about this! Maybe now I can get some help with the little packages I want to make &#8212; just my own defaults to existing packages.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we would do that, it would put to much clutter on the front page.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we would do that, it would put to much clutter on the front page.</p>
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		<title>By: LaserJock</title>
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		<dc:creator>LaserJock</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Oct 2007 20:08:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great idea, only one problem, IMO. The forums are really down deep in the structure, would it be possible to move them up in the hierarchy so that it&#039;s up there with &quot;Main Support Categories&quot; and  &quot;Other Community Discussions&quot;? IMO &quot;Ubuntu Development &amp; Programming&quot; is worth it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great idea, only one problem, IMO. The forums are really down deep in the structure, would it be possible to move them up in the hierarchy so that it&#8217;s up there with &#8220;Main Support Categories&#8221; and  &#8220;Other Community Discussions&#8221;? IMO &#8220;Ubuntu Development &amp; Programming&#8221; is worth it.</p>
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