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		<title>By: KenMarshall</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/comment-page-1/#comment-1979</link>
		<dc:creator>KenMarshall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 20:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think, that is interesting for all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think, that is interesting for all.</p>
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		<title>By: Huygens</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/comment-page-1/#comment-1497</link>
		<dc:creator>Huygens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:01:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In reply to comment #11 (http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/#comment-1495)

As Mike stated in comment #7, the problem of nudity or others can also be a cultural problem.
People visiting the forum might be coming from countries where nudity/vulgarity/violence can be shocking, or from a cultural/religious background where it is also.
We should not always think with only our Western/Atheist mind. Other people are leaving out there, and, what we have learned from the Humanist (our own culture), is that we should respect them and not impose our view on them.
Stating that there is no offence with nudity and that people should realise that, is in a way imposing your personal view/culture on somebody else.
The opposite can be also consider true, I mean that someone impose you not to expose nudity. But if you do not see nudity, it does not shock you. Whereas, if someone else sees it, it might. Politeness, education and I think common sense tell us that in such case, we should not expose it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to comment #11 (<a href="http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/#comment-1495" rel="nofollow">http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/#comment-1495</a>)</p>
<p>As Mike stated in comment #7, the problem of nudity or others can also be a cultural problem.<br />
People visiting the forum might be coming from countries where nudity/vulgarity/violence can be shocking, or from a cultural/religious background where it is also.<br />
We should not always think with only our Western/Atheist mind. Other people are leaving out there, and, what we have learned from the Humanist (our own culture), is that we should respect them and not impose our view on them.<br />
Stating that there is no offence with nudity and that people should realise that, is in a way imposing your personal view/culture on somebody else.<br />
The opposite can be also consider true, I mean that someone impose you not to expose nudity. But if you do not see nudity, it does not shock you. Whereas, if someone else sees it, it might. Politeness, education and I think common sense tell us that in such case, we should not expose it.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy Teale</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/comment-page-1/#comment-1495</link>
		<dc:creator>Jeremy Teale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 09:47:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nudity and &quot;foul language&quot; shouldn&#039;t be an issue. Our kids are not sacred little vessels of purity and innocence that should be blindfolded and put in a padded room. Additionally, the human body is not obscene. Americans need to realize that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nudity and &#8220;foul language&#8221; shouldn&#8217;t be an issue. Our kids are not sacred little vessels of purity and innocence that should be blindfolded and put in a padded room. Additionally, the human body is not obscene. Americans need to realize that.</p>
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		<title>By: theOlster</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/comment-page-1/#comment-1494</link>
		<dc:creator>theOlster</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Please, keep up the good work.  I agree with all of your points above.  

Lets keep the forums safe for work!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Please, keep up the good work.  I agree with all of your points above.  </p>
<p>Lets keep the forums safe for work!</p>
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		<title>By: Ubuntu Tutorials</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/comment-page-1/#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>Ubuntu Tutorials</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:09:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t see why nudity on a support forum is even an issue.  It&#039;s for support, technical and otherwise.  I don&#039;t even see why nudity would be an issue regardless of whether or not the human body is a beautiful thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t see why nudity on a support forum is even an issue.  It&#8217;s for support, technical and otherwise.  I don&#8217;t even see why nudity would be an issue regardless of whether or not the human body is a beautiful thing.</p>
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		<title>By: brizz</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/comment-page-1/#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>brizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:06:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, accidentally clicked post.

I like comment #3, by exposing people to something, you are assuming that they don&#039;t mind being exposed to it. You are effectively taking away their freedom of choice when you just plop a nude picture in the middle of an otherwise clean thread.

RE: the actual article, &quot;Safe from Hate Speech: The Ubuntu Forums has 226,284 users as of 22-Jan-2006&quot; </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, accidentally clicked post.</p>
<p>I like comment #3, by exposing people to something, you are assuming that they don&#8217;t mind being exposed to it. You are effectively taking away their freedom of choice when you just plop a nude picture in the middle of an otherwise clean thread.</p>
<p>RE: the actual article, &#8220;Safe from Hate Speech: The Ubuntu Forums has 226,284 users as of 22-Jan-2006&#8243;</p>
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		<title>By: brizz</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/comment-page-1/#comment-1489</link>
		<dc:creator>brizz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 19:04:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t understand why you would want to or need to post nudity on a mostly technical support forum.

The fact that younger kids might be on there to see it should help you refrain from using any kind of nudity, gruesome violence, vulgarity, etc. There are plenty of places around the Internet where your adult-natured spirit can be set free. You don&#039;t need to also let it contaminate the Ubuntu Forums.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t understand why you would want to or need to post nudity on a mostly technical support forum.</p>
<p>The fact that younger kids might be on there to see it should help you refrain from using any kind of nudity, gruesome violence, vulgarity, etc. There are plenty of places around the Internet where your adult-natured spirit can be set free. You don&#8217;t need to also let it contaminate the Ubuntu Forums.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/comment-page-1/#comment-1488</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:41:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even in the Arts &amp; Design section that would be inappropriate. We need to keep the forums safe for kids and safe for work. Also, some cultures view what is appropriate different. The Ubuntu Forum needs to serve the entire Ubuntu community, no matter of age or cultural differences, to the best of its ability.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even in the Arts &#038; Design section that would be inappropriate. We need to keep the forums safe for kids and safe for work. Also, some cultures view what is appropriate different. The Ubuntu Forum needs to serve the entire Ubuntu community, no matter of age or cultural differences, to the best of its ability.</p>
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		<title>By: mojoman</title>
		<link>http://www.mikesplanet.net/2007/01/ubuntu-forums-censorship-and-the-forums/comment-page-1/#comment-1487</link>
		<dc:creator>mojoman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 18:19:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just thinking out loud here but would, say, a wallpaper of a beautiful naked woman (or man for that matter) with the Ubuntu logo be inappropriate in the Art &amp; Design section?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just thinking out loud here but would, say, a wallpaper of a beautiful naked woman (or man for that matter) with the Ubuntu logo be inappropriate in the Art &amp; Design section?</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jan 2007 16:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing to consider about point 2, is that Ubuntu Forums needs to be SFW (safe for work). I use Ubuntu Forum all the time for technical support for parts of my job. While some companies would be understanding, many companies have a zero tolerance policy about anything close to porn on the computer screen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing to consider about point 2, is that Ubuntu Forums needs to be SFW (safe for work). I use Ubuntu Forum all the time for technical support for parts of my job. While some companies would be understanding, many companies have a zero tolerance policy about anything close to porn on the computer screen.</p>
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